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Occupy Naperville Holding Protest Saturday

Protesters will be gathering at Washington Street and Ogden Avenue and marching south to Jefferson Avenue and Main Street.

An offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement will be occupying Naperville, if only for a few hours every Saturday for an indefinite period of time.

The first protest by Occupy Naperville will be held on Saturday morning starting at the PNC Bank at Ogden Avenue and Washington Street. Protesters will then march south to Jefferson Avenue and Main Street.

The gathering will begin at 10 a.m. with protesters begining their march at 10:30 a.m. The protest will be held every Saturday, “until corporate dominance over our government has ended,” Steve Alesch, the lead organizer who is also a Warrenville Park District Board Commissioner said in a news release.

Along with well publicized events held in Chicago, protests in suburban areas are starting to take place with some recently being held in Elgin and Aurora, according to a news release from Occupy Naperville.

The Occupy Wall Street protest began in early September with demonstrations and occupation of Zuccotti Park in the Wall Street District of New York City. The occupation is supposed to highlight corporate influence on democracy. The protest catch phrase is “We are the 99 percent.”  The movement is growing more politically organized and gaining support from unions, according to a story in The Washington Post

Those involved with the movement have asked that protesters maintain a peaceful assembly, according to the Occupy Naperville Meetup site.

Learn more about Occupy Naperville.

Jim Smith October 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM
Tim and Tawanda, it's great that you are keeping the discussion focused on the issues and not doing personal attacks and harassment, which would reflect negatively on your character (and on your positions).
Jay October 29, 2011 at 11:51 PM
Maryz, well said. Yes the government bailed out the banks, but they actually made money off them and TARP worked. In theory, it does perpetuate bad behavior by the large banks, but much of that behavior was because of government intervention. We need to get government out of the free market, and let banks fail, let auto manufacturers go through bankruptcy (they got real 'bailouts' - we'll never see that money again). TARP was designed for the government to take more control over the financial system, and the other bailouts were nothing more than a payback to unions for their support of the Democratic party. Yes, it is time to get Corporate money out of elections, as it is time to get Union money out of elections. The problem is that neither party will give up their own gravy train.
Tim October 30, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Jim, no less than half a dozen times have you brought up Saul Alisnky's book. Since I do not know you personally, I have to ask questions of you in order to find out your knowledge on the subjects you are posting on. It is how a rational person would decide if you know what you are talking about, or are just being someone else's echo chamber. If you do not want to discuss it, then that comes with other responsibilities on your part as well. Namely, not bringing it up and trying to cite various chapters of it as if you have a copy of the book. I think it speaks volumes of my character that I want to bring about a discussion on the things that you keep referencing over and over and over again. So, Jim. Who made the quote on page 5 of the book you keep quoting from? You either have read it and own the copy of the book you are taking the passages from that you keep posting, or you have not read it and have only a very shallow understanding of the concepts being discussed. In the latter case, your opinion would not carry much weight, and I would know something about your character and position. Which would bring us back full circle to the discussion about why you decided not to follow the rules of this site to begin with and used a fake name. As you also decided bring that up as well. Look, if you do not want to discuss the very things that you are bringing up, then why are you bringing them up in the first place?
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Jay said: "Yes the government bailed out the banks, but they actually made money off them" Banks were forced to take TARP money, even those that didn't need it. The government rationale was that it didn't want bank customers to know which banks were in trouble. Thus, it was much easier for TARP to "make money" overall, because healthy, successful, and profitable banks were required to accept the money and then pay it back with interest.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 12:36 AM
"The banks have made it impossible to build anything. No developer can obtain financing to build. " There is tremendous uncertainty now about whether or not projects are viable and thus whether or not the loans would be repaid. A lot of the real estate activity right now is totally related to bankruptcies and deeds-in-lieu-of-foreclosure. Would you lend money to someone if the risk was high that he could not pay it back? As of a year ago, the office vacancy rate in downtown Chicago was the highest it had been in four years. When vacancy rates are high, that's not the time to go build another big structure. Source: http://www.chicagorealestatedaily.com/article/20100329/CRED02/200037603/downtown-office-vacancy-highest-in-4-years I completely dismiss the idea that "The People" have NO representation in government. Look at Chicago and Cook County - the people there have the very corrupt, ineffective political philosophy they deserve and which they continue to return to power year after year.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 12:40 AM
There was some slight improvement in suburban office vacancy rates in the first part of this year, but they trended back up just recently: http://www.chicagorealestatedaily.com/article/20111010/CRED02/111019988/suburban-office-vacancies-creep-back-up-in-third-quarter Lenders MUST look at every deal very closely. They can't go lending money just to create jobs for architects, developers, and construction workers and then not be able to get repaid.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 12:41 AM
"If he actually believed what he said he would use his real name." Does that apply to everyone or just those with whom you disagree?
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 12:43 AM
Tim, if you're interested in passages from Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, you can either check the links I've already provided or try this: http://tinyurl.com/AlinskyRulesForRadicals
Tim October 30, 2011 at 02:44 PM
The quote on page 5, Jim. Who was it? Why would I need your superficial links, when it should be obvious to even you that I actually have a copy of the book, which is why Im asking you to produce the quote on page 5. This is the way to find out if your have only a superficial understanding of the topic, or not. It should be trivial for you to open up a copy of the book and answer this simple question, in order to support your position. I purposely picked something that would not be available in the 'cliffs notes' version of what you seem to be posting, in order to verify the depth of knowledge. Would you give serious consideration to a person claiming to be a doctor, yet who couldn't answer a basic follow-up question about the materials being posted that they claim to be an expert in? Do you even know the work Saul did in the suburb that's just a few miles from your house?
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 02:54 PM
@ The Sentinal: please explain this comment as it relates to our trade policies with COMMUNIST China, our owners: (snipped) Tawanda, you keep resorting to the typical left wingnut party tactics...if you can't think of anything to say that's worthwhile (which is very rare), resort to "wondering" about the other side and start trying to make us sound like we're communists and not Americans.( end snip) ~~~~~ Are you even remotely aware that communist China owns America ? What are your thought on this fact ?
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 02:57 PM
more projection from Frigo-Jim.
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 03:36 PM
@Frigo-Jim the 1%er posted: Actually I DID read the whole book when it first came out in 1971. I was quite the campus radical back then. Then I grew up and became a conservative. ~~~ would *love* to know what kind of " campus radical " you claim you were in the post 1971 era. did you partake in demonstrations against the war in Vietnam ? I don't think so. Please be more specific as to why you would define yourself as a " campus radical " in 1971+ era. Presuming you are being straight, I would guess you are in your late 50's. No work ?
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 03:44 PM
It's fascinating that you insist on making the discussion about individuals instead of issues. Please feel free to sprinkle in your usual dogma, projections, histrionics, personal attacks, etc., which let us know it's really you posting.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 03:45 PM
"Just a fizzle, a burp and that was it." You are being polite. It was indeed a gaseous expulsion, but from the other end.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 03:49 PM
Tim said, "Do you even know the work Saul did in the suburb that's just a few miles from your house?" Ah, so you ARE an expert on Alinsky. Thanks for that revelation. Tim also slithered: "The quote on page 5, Jim. Who was it?" Sorry, I didn't memorize every book I've ever read and my recollection of those from four decades ago is quite hazy. I'm glad that you are focused on such important issues, LOL.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 03:51 PM
....and a few of those 30 actually live in Naperville (pop. 141,853 as of the 2010 Census)!!! Wow, it's a resounding success - a true marker that the occupottiers represent 99% of The People!
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 04:21 PM
@Frigo-Jim: you are not answering the questions I posed but, rather, in your lame attempt to avoid them, go on an attack. Here, again, are my valid questions: what kind of " campus radical " were in the post 1971 era. did you partake in demonstrations against the war in Vietnam ? I don't think so. Please be more specific as to why you would define yourself as a " campus radical " in 1971+ era. Presuming you are being straight, I would guess you are in your late 50's. No work ?
Tim October 30, 2011 at 04:47 PM
"my recollection of those from four decades ago is quite hazy." Yes, which is exactly what I wanted to know. Thank You. Why should I give credence to your postings, when even you would admit that the things you are basing them on, are 'quite hazy' in your own mind? How can I expect to have a rational discussion with you about the very issues you are bringing up, without you having more than a surface understanding of them? You are free to have any opinion you want, and to voice it as loud as you want. You are also free to be as much or as little informed as you choose to be, but you are not free to expect the gaps in your knowledge to be passed over by those who recognize the shallowness of your arguments.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 05:13 PM
TT Avenger, please advise how your obsession with my background rather than on the issues at hand is paramount advancing the quality of discourse and level of knowledge being shared. One could easily get the impression that you are NOT interested in meaningful dialogue but instead are intent upon harassing at a personal level those with whom you disagree.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 05:17 PM
Tim said: "Why should I give credence to your postings, when even you would admit that the things you are basing them on, are 'quite hazy' in your own mind? How can I expect to have a rational discussion with you about the very issues you are bringing up, without you having more than a surface understanding of them?" Sorry, I didn't memorize the entire book I read 40 years ago. If you feel a need to dismiss everything I say because of that, then that reflects more on you than on me. It's pretty clear you are interested in personal harassment rather than discussing the issues.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 05:25 PM
Imagine the outcry from libunatics if these had been Tea Party rallies: "Protesters Arrested in Denver and Portland" http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/us/occupy-wall-street-protesters-arrested-in-denver-and-portland.html "Dozens of Occupy protesters arrested in Texas, Oregon" http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/30/us/texas-occupy-austin/ "Wall Street protesters in Tenn. defy curfew a 3rd straight night" http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/wall-street-protesters-in-tenn-defy-curfew-a-3rd-straight-night-but-none-arrested-this-time/2011/10/30/gIQAiSWnVM_story.html
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 05:28 PM
Unions are a part of the driving force behind the occupotty movement: "Unions Look To 'Occupy' For Supporters" http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/your_money/unions-look-to-occupy-for-supporters-dpgonc-km-20111030_15715745 "Union members who descended on "Occupy Wall Street" encampments armed with tents, food and organizational expertise hope to turn young demonstrators into enduring labor allies, part of a larger effort to rejuvenate the movement's aging ranks. In the throngs of unemployed 20-somethings gathered in cities across the US, labor leaders see a chance to improve their movement's image with a generation of future workers who will be crucial to unions' survival."
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 06:25 PM
@ Frigo-Jim: you volunteered information about yourself in the first place, and since, you claimed that you were " quite the campus radical back then " I was merely asking for more information. If you do not want your personal business discussed, then I would advise you not to bring it into the discussion.
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 06:27 PM
translation: you have neither read nor own the book you invoke at every opportunity.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 06:48 PM
Libunatics in a state of complete and public meltdown - kinda warms the heart.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 08:28 PM
Video: Occupotty Denver thug knocks motorcycle officer to the ground! http://tv.breitbart.com/occupydenver-thugs-knock-motorcycle-cop-to-ground/
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 09:50 PM
I am happy to partake.
Jim Smith October 30, 2011 at 09:56 PM
"Armed Citizen Militia Shows Up At Occupy Phoenix" http://www.infowars.com/occupy-phoenix-with-ar-15s/ "Armed citizen militia group US Border Guard is making its presence felt at the Occupy Phoenix demonstration to protect free speech rights, arguing that the second amendment prevents the state from abusing the first amendment. The group has been labeled “neo-nazis” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is usually a demonization tactic, but the individual shown in the clip, “JT Ready” has attended neo-nazi rallies and is closely affiliated with the fringe National Socialist Party. The group has also operated as a “Minutemen on steroids” outfit, organizing armed patrols of the US border with Mexico."
Tawanda The Avenger October 30, 2011 at 10:05 PM
I was overwhelmed by the sheer volume of people driving by and honking, thumbs up sign, waving. Large delivery trucks honking over and over. A peaceful protest by Americans exercizing the constitutional rights with a LOT of support out there, wether the 1% want to admit it, and there are a lot of PO'd out there. You see, the system as rigged has been very very good to them and they would prefer things stay right ( pun intended ) on course as long as there remains one single parking meter which can be sold for profit or one living human who can be thrown off insurance company rolls if they have a pre-existing condition. To the 1%ers, it's all about who has the most money. They view the 99% as human weeds out to take something they are entitled to away from them. What I just don't get is the part about where the Frigo-Jims of the 1% think they will be in the world of survival of the wealthiest. Unless you are filthy-rich to the point where you have your own army, you are as screwed as everyone else is. Do you think you will never get old or sick or is it about being first in line and the heck with everybody else. You got yours and that's all that counts. Not exactly a long term solution but then again, the waterboys for the rightwing corporate agenda are not exactly known for their great thinking abilities.
Michael Heitmanek August 27, 2013 at 04:30 AM
So is Socialism dead in Naperville?

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