Naperville Smart Meter Awareness President, Board Member Arrested
Naperville Smart Meter Awareness president Kim Bendis and board member Jennifer Stahl were arrested Wednesday for interfering during a city smart meter installation on Stahl's home.
Updated: Jan. 24, 12:26 p.m.
Naperville Smart Meter Awareness president Malia "Kim" Bendis and group board member Jennifer Stahl were arrested Wednesday for interfering with a city smart meter installation.
Earlier: Smart Meter Opponents Descend on City Manager Seeking Answers
City Manager Doug Krieger said the two were arrested around 1:42 p.m. Wednesday for interfering during a meter installation on Stahl's home in the 1400 block of Westglen Drive in Naperville. No one was injured, Krieger said.
According to the city, Bendis, 40, of Naperville, was charged with attempt eavesdropping and resisting a peace officer, both misdemeanors. Stahl, 40, of the 1400 block of Westglen Drive, was charged with interfering with an officer and preventing access to customer's premises, both are city ordinance charges, according to the city of Naperville.
Krieger said the city has more than 99 percent of the 57,000 smart meter installations completed, which the city began installing about a year ago.
"Some people did not opt to accept the smart meter or non-wireless meter alternative that we provided," Krieger said. "Unfortunately, two residents were arrested due to interfering with the installation."
According to the city, all Naperville residents and businesses have the option to opt for a non-wireless meter alternative for a one-time cost of $68.35 as well as a monthly cost of $24.75.
The Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group is comprised of residents who oppose the installation of smart meters on homes, which use an electronic network to transmit information regarding utility use.
The group has cited financial cost of the project, privacy, security and health concerns as cause for the city to stop installation of meters. The group is also seeking injunctive relief in Federal Court.
Two videos were uploaded on the Naperville Smart Meter Awareness YouTube channel on Wednesday showing smart meter installations, one of which shows installers walking over a short locked fence.
According to an email from the group, Bendis was videotaping the smart meter installation on Stahl's home, in the 1400 block of Westglen Drive Wednesday before she was arrested.
Last year, Krieger told the group that the city of Naperville was trying to accommodate residents who do not wish to have the smart meter installed and repeatedly said that the alternative option of a non-wireless meter was available.
At that time, members said that the battle would probably become ugly in the future with arrests taking place if installation continued against the wishes of homeonwers who have asked that the analog meters remain.
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D.DouglasThomas
11:54 am on Friday, February 1, 2013
As for their sentences if convited of the 'alledged charges'...how's about community service picking up goose poop along the RiverWalk...
D Smith
6:51 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
99% of the meters are installed and now they get arrested? What's in it for either side at this point?
Albert Gazalooch
2:58 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Show of power.
maureen
10:02 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Never give up!
Government, police and utility companies DO NOT have the right to install a 2-way communicating computer on your home under the guise of merely changing out the old meter.
This is tyranny.
steve
9:56 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
the utility gives the city money for getting 100% conmpliance, then it helps pay the salary increases. we used to call that kickbacks, but now that the government can use ponzi schemes and enron accounting legally, it is just business as usual. too bad there are so few that actually fight back.
Jim Smith
5:26 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Steve said: "the utility gives the city money for getting 100% compliance..."
Uh Steve, the City - and the people of Naperville - own the electric utility department.
Steve also said: "the government can use ponzi schemes and enron accounting legally"
Please advise which Ponzi schemes and Enron accounting are the people of Naperville engaging in via their ownership of their own electric utility?
steve
10:20 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
thanks for asking jim, first of all, technically, big government shills like to point out that naperville owns the utility. However, since real owners get to share the profit, and not just get the short end of the stick when it comes to getting billed without representation (as the city of naperville is about to lose in court for not doing), in reality, the citizens don't own jack, just higher and higher bills and taxes. Regarding ponzi schemes, a ponzi scheme is where an entity takes money that is it supposed to steward over, but then not only spends it all on themselves, but then has to borrow to continue spending, to the point where the borrowing only pays for the interest payments. the future generation that owes more than 50K per person (and growing as the government continues to borrow), won't ever see the benefit because in ten/twenty years when they are first born and then grow into adults, the meters are obsolete, hacked, or burned out. government shills says it has to borrow, but it doesn't ever plan how to pay it back or to make absolute sure it will benefit our next generation who is paying the interest. They just make sure the big business makes their money and government keeps getting bigger. "Enron account schemes" are playing around with the numbers in ways that are not professionally acceptable in the accounting field. However, almost all government now is doing just that, which is business as usual. If they weren't in government, they'd go to jail.
Sandy Glass
5:55 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Steve: That was a terrific reply to these sheepal. The quest for power from these government hacks only grows. Curran and crowd are offering to come into buisness to "teach" them how to modify their business so that they can save money. What a bunch of clowns. Too bad the city's dumb energy contract calls for "peak" demand sure charge, now foisted on all of us. Where do these morons get off thinking business and home owners need their help in anything? If Naperville Electric was run in a free market, they would be bankrupt. How much debt do they carry? How much do they we taxpayers owe for unfunded pension funds? Why are they 1.7 million over budget in ths program alone? Why are we forced to buy from them, by their own laws? Napervilke is now built out, with no more room for growth. So the city just keeps piling on rules, ordinances, laws, and regulations to keep government employed. These elite actually believe that they are smarter than all of us, and need their "help" to manage our homes! "Government isn't the solution to our problems. Government is the problem!" Sell the electric company! We demand to be part f the energy free market!
Jim Smith
9:43 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
steve said: "real owners get to share the profit"
In a resident-owned system like Naperville's, there are no profits because any excess revenue is applied against rates and costs.
What do you want - a check every quarter or year?
steve
8:24 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Jim Smith: in Florida we did get a check every year from our electric company. But let's do it better. Sell the utility company, let it be run by a professional board, then pay back the Unfunded pensions. The remainder is a nice check to each homeowner. Then we all get to participate in the free market and pick our own providers. By the way Orland Park rebates its citizens sales tax instead of blowing it on nonsensical schemes and double dipping pensions.
Sandy
steve
8:25 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Jim Smith,
Actually, I just want taxation with representation, which the city of Naperville is about to lose in court regarding this issue. Also, government for the people, by the people, instead of government for the government and big business would be nice.
NaperDad
6:53 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Yeah, it's easy to get to 99% when you disregard those that opt out by choosing the non-transmitting smart meters by calling the city and making your official request... then install a transmitting version anyway in the 10 minute window that a person leaves the house. This issue has become a joke and shows how draconian this city council has become.
In light of the Supreme Court just ruling against IL and its "eavesdropping" laws, I hope they sue the pants off the city. Yes, even as a tax payer, I want the city to get slapped for this one and hopefully the voters take notice during upcoming elections.
Disappointed
7:52 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Another score for Big Brother. Who's Eavesdropping on who?
Napervillian
8:07 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Good to see paranoia isn't just twin noias.
Jim Smith
12:02 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Good one!
law geek
8:14 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
The arrest for eavesdropping was illegal. The law they were arrested under has been declared unconstitutional and the May 8 ruling by the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago that blocked enforcement of the law, I think Bendis should be able to collect a large settlement from the city for the false arrest. Clearly the officers knew the law could not be enforced.
http://news.yahoo.com/top-court-not-revisit-illinois-eavesdropping-law-215536851.html
NaperDad
4:24 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Completely agree. Looks like the city will now be contributing to the very people they are against.
steve
11:08 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
thank you, too bad we can't put politicians that should know better in jail or make them pay for their illegal actions like we the public have to when we make the same mistakes or choices.
Buford Pusser
8:16 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
So what. Just get the damn meters installed. What's the big deal.
maureen
10:06 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
@Buford Please do some research on the Smart Meter and the Smart Grid.
Google Smart Meter Dangers and see for yourself, too.
Pat R
8:51 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
And we wonder why so many citizens fear speaking up and taking a stand on controversial issues.!?!
Government intimidation and retailiation!
I hope they sue the pants off the City in Federal Court for retaliation for the exercise of their first amendment rights
jose
11:55 am on Friday, February 1, 2013
what a joke. if they don't want them they shouldn't be forced to have them
Fuzzballz
10:04 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
These comments are the reason we are in this mess of a state and country. Personal attacks instead of education. If you want to be in a town that doesn't want to invest in technology... Move to Indiana? Really...? They are light years ahead of Illinois financially. Just get the damn meters... How's because I don't think the government local, state, or federal government should tell me what meter or monitoring of the utility i use and pay for. What's the long term impact of all of the wireless technology through the air? Why push this through so quickly? Why can't we have free will? Can't we all at least agree we should be able to make our own decisions and not forced by our government? Attack my comments. But remember these thoughts of free choice is what used to make our country great.
maureen
10:10 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Ignore and don't read the negative comments. It's a technique used by opposition to detract from the main points of the article. Flag as inappropriate.
Here are some of the ways jerks mess up the comment sections of articles. http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
Bob H
10:39 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
It is so stupid the way people consider it a freedom when its convenient. You want inexpensive reliable electricity, but also want full control of how it is provided. The only rational point made here, is if you don't want to deal with City of Naperville and their method of delivering electricity you have 3 choices:
1.) Elect people who agree with you and influence change (takes a while but could be done) Maybe you lose this issue, but you can possibly change other things in the future
2.) Do not accept electricity from the city. Find an alternative or live without power
3.) Move out
It is a free country and people elected officials decisions on their behalf. They made those decisions and it costs money and now a quite minority is now resorting to criminal action to keep the media listening. Final point democracy doesn't mean you always get your way. The women in the video agrees that it is the law but its not right. Plenty of times the laws haven't been right, doesn't give her the right to disobey them.
Naperville resident
12:26 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Basically, our analog meters were working fine throughout the years with no extra exposure to RF emissions or increased house fire risks. We are exposed to enough already in our society with cell phones, microwaves, and other wireless technology, why add more "dirty electricity" as it has been referred to, without concretely knowing what it may do to us down the road. We don't need to stop progress or technological advancement, just make sure it is safest decision before imposing it on an entire community.
It is our personal responsibility and right to educate and protect ourselves from things we feel could adversely affect our health. All American citizens have the right to stand up for themselves, when their values are being undermined or rights threatened. We elect people to represent us, it's not a blanket acceptance of all their decisions for us. We still have a right to speak up against decisions we disagree with. Let's face it, not all of our Illinois elected officials have been exactly "above board" in their decision making processes on our supposed behalf.
For the record Kim Bendis is not a media whore but rather a concerned citizen, we should all agree to disagree and not bring it down to a low level of name calling. To say someone is a waste of space is just mean; we need to keep our disagreements respectful of each other, we are supposed to be mature adults.
NaperDad
4:22 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
You forgot the supposed option 4 which was to have a non transmitting smart meter. For this "luxury" the city would charge you $25/month if you called and asked for it. For the record, we did call and have our name added to that list. What did that get us? A visit from the installers in a 10 minute window that nobody home. In those 10 minutes, they installed a transmitting smart meter. So much for these so called "choices".
denise kinsey
11:46 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
This is a great response I love it, problem is that every house has them and cellphone towers as well. Everything would have to be removed.
The 2 woman here are making the publi aware of the health issues with this device.
And I thought you had to have a warrant to enter someones property(police)
I agree if the citizens do not want the smart meter lets go else where but everyone has to do it not just one.
NaperDad
6:04 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
So tell me Bob, which law did Kim disobey? Last I heard it was "eavesdropping" and "resisting arrest" resulting from the "eavesdropping". So, just in case you're not up to date, the Supreme Court of the United States shot down such laws as being unconstitutional in a little state you may have heard of... Illinois. So, take a read and get back to us as to why Kim should have been arrested.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/illinois-police-recording_n_2191800.html
steve
10:03 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
bob,I too am sorry about ignorant people. Ignorant people don't realize that every where smart meters go, it doens't lower electricity cost, it only raises them and allows the big electric companies more ways to figure out how to charge all you ignorant people when you use it when they call it "high rate times". ignorant people believe that the government and the big companies are in it to help you, just follow their recommendations on when to do your laundry, cook your food, use electricity and your costs will go down. Lies, damn lies, you can't, and you ignorant people pay more and more, with the middle class being sucked drier and drier. Wake up!!!
denise kinsey
12:36 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Upon arriving from the store with my daughter and granddaughter 2 2 trucks and I'm in front of my home. My fiancee is a commity man and has been working with these 2women on this lawsuit. W
Hen i asked them what they werer doing they replied, puttingthe smart meter on. Mind you the man who installed it ran as fas as he could to his truck and mind you he had a plastic welders mask on and the 2other men did not. I started screaming and the2men who stayed behind gave me a song and dance. I asked one of the men you did not give me the option of saying. Yes or no,he replied, we rang your door bell and there was no answer. My reply was we have no doorbells they were broke. I did some research andfound outpacific gs and electric had a part in developing this device (also known as pgand e) who is notorious for killing people). I took my info and a few days later went and spoke about this issue. Why would a city buy a product with there named even attached to it? That night recorded my speach. It is unconstitutional to tell people who voted against the smartmeter and city over turn THE VOTE. I SPOKE TO _KIM AND TOLD HER THE WHOLE STORY. I rescue wolves and teach about
The enviroment
Bob H
4:13 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I can barely understand this as it is written very badly to say the least. PGE or Pacific Gas and Electric Company are not the manufacturer so that is patently false.
I am sorry the Erin Brockovich movie had such an impact on your life. Kim thinks she is Erin Brockovich and as bat crap crazy as you.
Truth is all of you should have done this before installations began and excepted it when the city of Naperville refused to sign the petition to remove the meters. Most people want them. You crazies are free to move.
denise kinsey
2:12 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
Allow me to make some corrections on my post. 1st Our computer was down I was on my smartphone.
1 year ago we said we said no to the smartmeter. Fast forward to the day of the installation. I was told by City Manager Doug Krieger we were the last house that the meter was installed. I was not home when they came to the property, as we pulled in the driveway there were 2 cars ,
When I addressed the 3 men what they were doing the one man who installed the meter was wearing a welders mask but it was plastic. I was very upset, the installer ran to his truck and got out of dodge leaving the 2 other men to deal with me.
One of the 2 men told me they rang our doorbell and there was no answer. There were no doorbells they were broke.
He gave me a card and said to call this guy and the meter would be removed. So i did. A few hours later 2 men in a service truck showed up and my daughter called me to let me know someone was in the yard with flash lights. I went out, guess who it was? The man on the card and he said he recieved a call about a exsposed wire.
You have to be a licensed electrician to install the wired meter. Smart meter installers are not electricians (that is why he ran).
I am a fan of Erin because she faught for people who PG&E made sick and died. They had a hand in developing this meter.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/smart-meter/energy-management/prweb10352079.htm
You have Bob bashed all here. I am a wolf handler and saving the echo system is what I do,
denise kinsey
11:26 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Also the city does own the meters and the meters are properties but, to use force is wrong.
Health issues and constitutional rights are the issue. Name calling will not resolve anything. We are a community and we need to start acting like one.
Deception and lies as well as using the police force to do stuff like this instead of what they are great at doing is protect and serve. This is not a choice a police offier has to make he follows orders. Mind you some have the god complex and there are only a few.
I watch one video on youtube where a police officer was clearly not happy making or even being at the property.
And yes cell towers and everyday items do put you at harm, for me given choice a or b and coming on your property without you even being home is out right wrong.
I do have an illiness and it will not change my fate.
So for me it is a matter f my rights being violated.
I do not care what anyone thinks of what I say or do.
At 1st it went from you can choose to not have the smart meter and if you say no you still had to pay for it to 2 choices A or B. Wireless or not.
I agree with these women because they are working to save our enviroment--meaning our childtrens childrens future. And quite shocked anyone would do bussiness that even had PG&E name associated to it.
denise kinsey
3:49 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Gil the sanctuary I work for is in Lucern Valley California and the wolves are dying from cancer. I am very well aware of what is going on and would love to speak to you outside this page.
It comes down to who you can trust!!!
Albert Gazalooch
3:03 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
We don't have smart meters where I live but I know someone from Naperville who's been hearing the voice of Wally Philips in his head every morning since theirs were installed!
Gerard Schilling
6:02 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Yesterday the Naperville Gestapo (our police force) ordered by our city manager, police chief and utility manager none of which are elected officials invaded tax paying citizens homes and properties and forcibly installed smart meters against the wishes of our home owners.(Law suits will be forthcoming)
Has Naperville sunk to this pathetic level where the police force who have sworn individually to protect and uphold the Constitution a significant part of which is private property rights and no trespassing without a court order or warrant?
If we have excess police and police superintendents who have nothing better to do then harass Naperville citizens it is time to have a significant reduction in force starting with the police chief and any officer who would disregard his oath by participating in this criminal activity.
Smart meters are nothing when compared to our freedoms and rights being trampled on by these thugs and morons. View this on Channel 2 news and see how you will feel when they invade your homes for some other nonsensical code!
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/23/two-naperville-women-arrested-for-trying-to-block-smart-meters/
Mark
1:01 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Once again, Gerard, you prove that America is a great place to be crazy.
Bob H
4:14 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I hope the state has you on the list of people who should no own a firearm. You are absolutely crazy to compare the City of Naperville with Nazi Germany.
You are sick person and need to find help.
D.DouglasThomas
7:32 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Let's Keep The Informed Dialogue Going..Glad We Have The Patch To Express Our Opinions..Sure Easier Than Writing Letters To The NaperSun!
Buford Pusser
9:08 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
@Gerald it's not trespassing, when it comes to outside utilities or City owned equipment and maintenance. By the way the Police were only called to the residence after the meter installer reported a disturbance. No one needs a warrant or a court order to install the meter. Let the meters be installed, what's the big deal? Nothing!
Gerard Schilling
10:14 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I know it comes as a shock and surprise to you that this country was founded in part because of citizens having no rights with regards to private property, personal liberties and God given freedoms.
To secure this a revolutionary war was fought and through the years many have given their lives and years of service to protect this great country and the Constitution which founded it.
This document was created to protect the citizens against exactly these types of abuses, over reaches and illegal use of government force to suppress and intimidate citizens exercising their rights.
You have the right to advocate for a totalitarian form of government but don’t be surprised if many of us resist with all legal means at our disposal to stop you!
Bob H
4:16 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Mr Schilling. Bad example... "You have the right to advocate for a totalitarian form of government but don’t be surprised if many of us resist with all legal means at our disposal to stop you!"
They broke the law and deserve to be arrested. They won't do time, but they certainly didn't use legal means.
Gerard Schilling
5:00 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Oh Bob, you and Mark are so predictable calling people names for protecting their homes and children. You two would have made a great brown shirts going around and bulling women and children and using thuggery and illegal actions to get your way.
Spend 20 minutes and read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, assuming you can read , then let’s have a discussion on unalienable rights.
Bob H
5:49 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Gerard -- calling the city Nazi's is a pretty bad name. Calling someone crazy for not following the law is not too far. I don't see why you can justify breaking the law in reaction to what you consider violating your rights. If you really don't believe in the law in this county than you have bigger problems. Truth is this case has been heard by the city council and several courts. The waited until the end to change these peoples meters, but at some point it costs money keep a project going when its 99% complete. The city acted with much prudence. This fringe group you belong to did not.
Gerard Schilling
8:02 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
The irony Bob is when the thugs succeed in bringing about a dictatorship, by first starting with the little things like smart meters) they eventually become so embolden by citizen apathy that they keep going until someone stops them.
If they are successful the first people they eliminate are the thugs that brought them to power because they are a threat to the new establishment. The question you should ask yourself is, “are you one of the thugs”?
If the answer is yes, you should worry about the list they are putting you on instead putting me on some gun list. I fight with words and it is far more likely you and your ilk would revert to violence then anyone from this group or the various tea parties who are only trying to protect their rights.
Mark
1:33 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Gerald, this country was founded mostly because Americans valued self-government and they resented getting taxed by a bunch of guys in London who were looking to pay off war debt. ... That was pretty much the problem -- the taxes were coming from old England, not New England ...
15 years after the Revolution, the George Washington administration, however, had no problems with squeezing farmers and "westerners" with a clever Whiskey Tax to pay off war debt. And it had no problems with intimidating dissenters with military force. These are Founding Fathers we're talking about -- Washington, Adams, Hamilton ...
So Gerry, you old crank, maybe you could go register yourself for a couple history courses at COD before you resume comparing normal, peaceful, educated, law-abiding citizens to Nazi brownshirts. Because you're embarassing yourself. Again.
Buford Pusser
9:12 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
People if you are afraid of the meters so called potential harm. Get rid of your cell phones , micro waves , computers and T.V.'s and Wi-fi's! There's your harm.
Buford Pusser
9:24 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I have nothing but high praise for N.P.D. and the great job that they do for the citizens on a daily basis.
Naperville resident
10:14 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
The smart meters use the same technology. You are able to turn off your cell phones, computers, t.v.s, microwaves, and our wifi has an on/off button. I can choose to keep the cell phone out of my pocket, use a speaker or a headset, so the radiation is not right up to my head. I was actually told at a meeting by someone promoting the smart meter, that he agreed you should never put a cell phone up to your head because of the RF exposure. The smart meter doesn't turn off, yet "talks" to other meters regularly. PG & E admitted in an recent article from the EMF Safety Network, that the meters apparently send an average of "14,000 RF pulses per meter per day at a peak power of 2 1/2 watts and a max of 190,000 pulses per day." It just exposes us to a lot more RF.
I have nothing but respect for the N.P.D. and the great job they do for the citizens, as well. Although, I don't agree with the arrests, both the UPA installers and the police were doing what they were instructed to do. I have a relative who is a police officer, and fully understand it is not an easy job. Let's not spin the issue onto the N.P.D. and keep it where it belongs about the meters and our rights.
maureen
9:48 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
@Buford Yes, RF microwave radiation is harmful to humans.
RF Microwave radiation whether from a Smart Meter, cell phone or any other wireless device is dangerous to human health. The US Military documented the biological effects of electromagnetic radiation through numerous, now-unclassified studies. You can find a few of these below:
http://www.magdahavas.com/pick-of-the-week-21-physical-basis-of-electromagnetic-interactions-with-biological-systems/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52381912/U-S-Army-Report-on-Microwave-Effects
http://www.magdahavas.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Biological_Effects_of_Power_Frequency.pdf
Here is an earlier study:
http://www.magdahavas.com/pick-of-the-week-20-early-research-on-the-biological-effects-of-microwave-radiation-1940-1960/
Here is a most recent study:
ftp://ftp.cordis.europa.eu/pub/cost/docs/adlkofer.pdf
There are THOUSANDS OF STUDIES showing adverse biological effects on humans. You're welcome to view some more documentation on our website at:
http://www.stopocsmartmeters.com/smart-meter-dangers/public-health-hazard/
Voice of The People
9:54 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire
maureen
9:58 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Does the utility have an easement to attach a 2-way transmitting, data-mining COMPUTER on your home?
The Smart Meter is more than just an electricity measuring device like the old electromechanical meters were. They provide non-stop real-time communications of the activities in your private home.
This is a MASSIVE invasion of privacy which Smart Grid proponents are fully aware of from their internal documents.
Bob H
4:17 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Hire a lawyer to review the easement. It is ignorant to make a blanket statement like that.
maureen
4:40 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
@Bob H - So far in the comment section I have seen you call people "stupid" "whore" ignorant" "insane" "not caring" "crazy" "sick" "crazies" "criminal" "whiney losers" and a "waste of space".
Rule #5 of how to disseminate disinformation: Sidetrack the issue with name calling. http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
Buford Pusser
10:02 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
@Maureen then everyone should get rid of their cell phones and wi-fi's. We didn't have them years ago and lived w/o them, so we can live w/o them now.
NaperDad
10:09 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Guess what Buford, there are those people that do choose to get rid of WLAN and cell phones in their homes. Ever heard of ethernet? People can still have data coming and going to and from their homes without WLAN. There are also many that may have cell phones but only turn them on in emergencies. As for microwaves, what's wrong with cooking a meal on the stove top? Sure we have a micrwave but right now, it's a great place to store bread as we haven't used it in ages. Trust me, I thought at first we couldn't live without it but lo and behold, after years of not using it, we don't miss it.
Bob H
4:19 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
NaperDad - IT'S CALLED A NON-WIRELESS METER ALTERNATIVE. Stop making bad arguments, please have an option, but its not free because other residents don't want to pay for your insanity.
NaperDad
5:44 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Bob H, first of, are you simply incapable of having an adult conversation without the ad hominem attacks, or for that matter, simplistic, childish name calling? You should try it sometime, people might take you seriously for once.
As for non-wireless vs wireless, I choose to call them transmitting vs non-transmitting smart meters as by definition, they are both wireless. Obviously you knew what I meant by my more descriptive term than the less descriptive one used by the city.
With that being said, what "bad argument" couldn't you follow? If you read my original post, which you seem to have done based on your attack, you would see that I did ask for the option to have a smart meter sans wireless transmitter installed and that I knew that entailed me, NOT YOU OR OTHER RESIDENTS, paying the extra $25/month for such an option. With that being said, the city employee stated, "okay, you're on the list" and "you will be billed but you don't need to do anything else". HOWEVER (since you seem to like all caps) THE CITY STILL INSTALLED THE TRANSMITTING OR WIRELESS SMART METER VERSION. Thus my statement, "so much for options" and "this issue becoming a joke".
On a side note, speaking of bad arguments, what the heck do you mean by, " Stop making bad arguments, please have an option, but its not..." Could you please translate that into a coherent statement?
Bob H
6:23 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
NaperDad - so you agree that the city gave you an option and you feel that it is not an option anyways. It costs money to have people come by and read your meter. The smart grid does not work without a meter that collects the information the new meters do, so that is not an option. You refuse to understand that there is more to the this story besides meters. There is a new way to distribute electricity called a smart grid, and the meters enable that.
Most people don't care about meters, but they care about energy and worry about all of the other implications that it has on a global scale - war, pollution, scarcity. The opponents make it sound like its all about meters. The city didn't pay $20M for meters, they are investing in a new technology that many people want.
NaperDad
8:26 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Okay Bob H, please do try to follow along this time. If the city says, "you can choose between option A and option B" and you say, "I don't like option A or B but I'll take the lesser of two evils and will pay the extra money, so give me B" and the city says, "Okay, we've got you down for option B" but turns around and gives you option A anyway, do you ultimately have any options? NO. Please understand that what I chose was not given to me nor is the city willing to change it.
As for understanding the smart grid, thanks for explaining it to me again. FYI, I'm an Electrical Engineer. I've dealt with and understand what the smart grid is. FYI, the city wants to understand how power is used minute by minute but they don't need that specific data every minute of the day. The non transmitting (non-wireless for you) smart meters still collect the exact same data as the transmitting (wireless) versions do. The only difference is that someone has to stop by to collect the data. So, the city still gets their data, they can still model the "typical" usage based on time of day, time of year, weather, television events, Spring breaks, etc. They don't need the data instantaneously from 100% of the homes to raise or lower power output efficiently.
As for the spending, I understand that $11M is provided as part of a grant unfortunately, that $11M doesn't cover all the expenses. And guess what, they're already $2M over budget and they're still not done.
Buford Pusser
10:04 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I can care less if the smart meters are installed and if they monitor my usage.Get a life people!
maureen
10:33 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Congratulations, Buford! You can have a Smart Meter. That is YOUR CHOICE.
I choose to NOT have a 2-way transmitting computer which:
1. Profiles my living patterns
2. Can be hacked (it's a wireless computer)
3. Causes adverse health effects
4. Costs billions of dollars - which will be passed on to me (400% bill increases in Bakersfield, CA)
5. Catches fire (it's not even UL Approved!)
6. I have NO CONTROL over the hardware or any future software upgrades.
7. Experts warn of massive security vulnerabilities
8. Does NOTHING to improve our aging power grid (Smart Grid is government-funded money making machine)
9. Can shut down my electricity with a remote kill switch
10. Can remotely shut down my appliances (dryer, a/c, etc) against my wishes.
11. Penalizes the poor (Opt Out feels are expensive)
12. Penalizes those in community living arrangements with banks of meters
The CRIME here is that PEOPLE ARE NOT TOLD about Smart Meter hazards.
Gil Jones
10:24 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Check into Agenda 21, compliments of the United Nations. It is the culprit behind what happened today. You might be getting a life with the rest of us if we fight a civil war because of it. This incident got us that much closer...Semper Fi
Disappointed
10:05 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
So- I guess we should all be quiet and do as we're told?
Gil Jones
12:17 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
It's actually worse than you might think. This incident is repeating itself 6000+ times across America. That's how many communities have succumbed to the UN's Agenda 21, or "sustainable" energy propaganda, i.e. they sweeten the pot with lots of $$$. Americans betraying Americans. Google Agenda 21 to see what more is coming down the pike...nasty business...Semper Fi
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12:56 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
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H.I. McDunnough
2:05 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Dissent is as American as apple pie.....nice work ladies!!
Jim Smith
3:12 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
A smart meter transmits for about 0.07% of the day.
You are exposed to far more RF radiation visiting a Starbucks, McDonalds, or any other place that has wifi - and that is continuous, not intermittent like a smart meter.
maureen
3:52 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
According to PG&E, as reported to the CPUC (Application 11-03-014), an average Smart Meter pulses between 10,000 and 190,000 times per day for a total of 45 to 875 seconds.
Thus, this non-stop pulsing occurs roughly 7 to 131 times per minute. All day long. FOREVER.
I can choose to go to Starbucks or McDonalds and be exposed to their wifi. And then I can leave. Forced installations of a Smart Meter on my home removes my choice to live my life as RF microwave radiation free as possible.
Jim Smith
3:16 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Do you realize that the computer you're using to read this forum produces far MORE radio-frequency energy than a smart meter does and that it does so continuously instead of just a few seconds every hour and that it is much closer to your body than your smart meter is?
maureen
3:54 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Incorrect.
My ethernet cable is connected to the router.
No wifi.
No RF microwave radiation.
Marc Marton
8:03 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Maureen, you get radiation from your monitor. And the studies you cite or the claims you make are either unsubstantiated or patently false.
Bob H
4:20 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Maureen why aren't you protesting all the cellphone towers in the city. They effect people, but you don't care because you don't live by them?
maureen
5:15 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
DARE TO WATCH: EXPERT ON THE DARK SIDE OF RF MICROWAVE RADIATION? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvn-8ITy0oc
Microwave Frequencies - Stealth Warfare - What you don't know about your Cell Phone, wifi, ipad, Smart Meter
This technology was fully known in the mid 1970's . . by our military!
A microwave beam of pulsed frequencies and modulating the speed can determine how quickly a target will get cancers and other illness by reducing the immune systems. By changing the pulse frequency you can induce psychiatric illness that cannot be diagnosed or detected by psychiatric specialists. Microwave weapons are used in targeting the human brian to induce severe rage and violence leading to that person either being committed into a mental hospital or prison.
This technology is being used to bring economic ruin to countries by targeting food supplies causing crop failure.
U.S. Defense Intelligence says this weapon needs to be kept a secret to protect industrial profits and security.
Declassified documents: http://www.stopocsmartmeters.com/smart-meter-dangers/public-health-hazard/military-use-of-emr/
Jade33
8:19 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Maureen, you ROCK!!
Mike Francis
5:44 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I'm confused by what appears to be a simple situation. Why didn't the lady just opt for the non-wireless meter if she was concerned about the wireless one?
Even if she was concerned about the additional cost, that would have at least allowed her to have a meter that she felt safe with while she pursued whatever legal actions she might have taken.
Seems to me that she waited too long so that the City was forced to take action, due to her inaction.
Is there more to this story than is being reported?
NaperDad
5:50 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Well Mike, consider the fact that many months ago we did opt for the non-transmitting smart meter option and were told by the city that's what we'd get along with the added costs. Now also consider that the installation crew came by and installed a transmitting or wireless one in a 10 minute window while there was nobody home. And now that they installed it, they won't replace it. So... considering cases like this, would you trust the city with simply, "putting your name on the list"?
Bob H
7:21 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
NaperDad - I am sure they would happily give you the Non-Wireless Alternative. But you don't believe in that and think that's your right.
NaperDad
8:31 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Bob H, what don't you get? I'll type slower for you this time.... We chose the non-wireless smart meter alternative but they gave us the wireless version and won't give us the other one because they said they already installed a new meter.
D.DouglasThomas
3:40 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Now That's A Rationale And Sound Comment Mike Francis..
Gil Jones
10:05 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I decided to come back and read updated posts. Having done so I'm reminded of the old saw, "Can't see the forest for the tree." While everybody is lamenting the unhealthy aspects of the smart meter, they miss UN's Agenda 21, the culprit behind this incident. What happened here can happen in anyone of the 6000+ communities that have bought into it across the country. It too is unhealthy in that civil war might be fought because of it...don't worry about transmitting smart meters, worry about transmitting 'smart' to your neighbors ...Semper Fi
Buford Pusser
9:21 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
And they aired this on the News. This wasn't news worthy for T.V. when there's more important news to report than this trash.
gwst
10:15 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
You go, ladies! This story has gone nationwide, and many of us are behind you!
Paul
10:21 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
Paul from Phila. will be following and spreading this story
what a disgrace total violation of the constitution. They could have just shut the power off-maybe- not enter her property w/o a warrant - you need exigent circumstances and prove that. Cop should have stood up for her or did his homework and cited laws that protect her-like I have done and would have done.
Sandy Glass
6:24 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
King Krieger and his Merry Jesters
http://youtu.be/NnDu7fIgpjA
Buford Pusser
7:59 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
Paul. No part of the consitution was violated.
Sandy Glass
8:14 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
Our Fourth Amendment ("Smart Meters")The Right of the people to be sure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no Warrents shall be issued , but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the person or things to be seized.
First Amendment Right: Illinois "eaves dropping" law was ruled unconstitutional by the Federal Courts and upheld by Illinois Supreme Court in November 2012. The "attempted ease dropping" charge has been found to violate Free Speech and a free press.
Buford Pusser
8:32 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
No one is searching your house w/o a warrant. It's a damn electrical meter to determine usage. It doesn't go through your dresser drawers, closets and looks for illegal drug,guns or fugitives. Plus the meters aren't seizing nothing illegally!
Sandy Glass
5:55 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
You do not know what you are talking about. The meters are computers that take a minute to minute inventory of the power use in your home. That data can, among other things, help determine the daily activities and habits of your family. It can determine how many people live in your home, if you have guests, how long they stay and it you are not at home. The data (via the current draw) can determine what appliances and devices or tools that you have, and patterns of use. Read your Council Fiesler's own assessment of them, when he wrote an article for a trade publication. Will list below
Sandy Glass
5:57 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Your Council:
http://digital.bnpmedia.com/iphone/article.php?id=1156405&id_issue=123753&src=&ref=
Sandy Glass
6:02 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
http://digital.bnpmedia.com/iphone/article.php?id=1156405&id_issue=123753&src=&ref=
The meters are seizing our privacy, security, property rights and our health.
Buford Pusser
8:56 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Sandy the meters can only determine electrical use and the meters can not peak into your house to see home many people live there, if someone is not home or how many guest there are. Also the meter can not determine what make or model or type of appliances that you have. Then you say daily activities! Such as what? If I'm on the toliet, exercising or if I'm picking my nose! The meter can't do none of that. Can the meter determine if I'm using power tools if I were to cutting up a body if I was a killer? No!
maureen
12:11 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Privacy Concerns Challenge Smart Grid Rollout, Reuters, Jun 25, 2010:
"We, Siemens, have the technology to record it (energy consumption) every minute, second, microsecond, more or less live," said Martin Pollock of Siemens Energy, an arm of the German engineering giant, which provides metering services.
"From that we can infer how many people are in the house, what they do, whether they're upstairs, downstairs, do you have a dog, when do you habitually get up, when did you get up this morning, when do you have a shower: masses of private data."
http://www.stopocsmartmeters.com/smart-meter-dangers/privacy-invasion/
Buford Pusser
8:45 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
Sun worshipers that love to get tans are getting more radiation from the sun than they will from a smart meter and the ones that complain or refuse them are probably sun tanners.
NaperDad
9:22 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
Grasping at straw Buford?
Sandy Glass
6:07 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Go for it, Buford. While the rest of us are enjoying the fresh air and sunshine, go st in front of your HAN unit and see if you can afford to use your electric oven. Maybe you can eat dinner at 10:00 PM, instead of "peak" or "critical peak" hours of 12 noon until 9:00 PM. According to Curran, if you go with their "time of use" scheme you get to save $1.00...yes that's ONE DOLLAR a month, not to use your own home for most of your waking hours. Watch Curran ask for another Bond issue soon for the electric company. They are 1.7 million over budget, pulling money from other projects.
Buford Pusser
9:34 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
The sun or warrant? I'm correct on both!
Gerard Schilling
7:59 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
After world war 11 the Nuremberg trials were all about blindly following orders and using that excuse. They hung them for not having the guts to say no to illegal and abusing behavior. Granted these people killed many innocent people.
These incidents in no way rise to this severity but easily could have. Had one home owner decided (irrationally) to protect his home would a policeman have shot the guy or his dog over a lousy smart meter?
This is insanity and the City manager and police chief should be fired if for no other reason then stupidity.
Buford Pusser
8:44 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Gerald fired for what? They acted within their legal means. Then you say a homeowner irrationally protects his house ! How? If the owner used a gun, the Police could light him up no questions asked.
Bob H
12:43 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Again comparing our democracy to Nazi's. You are psycho and hurting your cause more than you are helping it. Again, this is the type of behavior our community needs to watch out for because your thoughts are freighting. You belong in an institution.
Buford Pusser
9:00 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
My brother lives in Riverside and has a smart meter on his house for the the last few years now and has not had any problems. He thinks people are crazy hete fighting the issue.
steve
10:17 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
your brother has a choice, isn't this country made for that? most states have seen the insanity of cities bullying to get their kickbacks and most states have had to pass laws to force cities to allow for a choice without a monthly "fine." This city is trying to get the 100% compliance with reckless abondon to many of the ways that a city is suppposed to inform, and protect their citizens. Too bad some ignorant people in this country are brainwashed or part of the government business as usual that will never understand both sides of the story and how the constitution does and will protect our rights. unfortunately, it will be to the cost to the taxpayers because of the selfrighteous and extreme overzealous illegal actions of the people that are supposed to be protecting us, but are just thinking about the money.
D.DouglasThomas
9:23 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Think folks not in favor of the smart meters being installed ( mine was installed several months ago without any problems, health issues, etc ) might take a walk thru "Area 51."!
Gerard Schilling
9:37 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
For a guy using an alter ego name of Buford Pusser who fought all his life against mafia style thuggery by both government and run of the mill criminals it’s astounding that you would try to defend this gross abuse of power.
Of course those ignorant of history are bound to repeat it. Beware my friend, ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
When you wake up one morning with no rights, no freedoms, no personal property and no protection by those sworn to protect you; you may wish to think back to a time before NDAA, drones, TSA searches, illegal road blocks, cameras at every street corner, etc. but it will be too late! Either protect you freedoms and cherish them or lose them to Chicago style thugs!
maureen
12:08 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
'Bufford' is just another Smart Grid SHILL. All ridicule and no substantiated facts. These shills like to fill up comment sections with their garbage to deflect from the rational arguments.
Keep posting relevant facts and ignore these shills. Do NOT BE INTIMIDATED!
Buford Pusser
2:48 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
For one thing Gerald Police enforcement road blocks are perfectly legal as well as cameras on the streets. I don't give a hoot if they do them! The only ones that don't like the road blocks or cameras are drunk drivers, suspended, speeders , wanted or did something wrong. If you didn't fo anything wrong ,what's the worry? None!
steve
11:02 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Just to add to Gerald's true words of wisdom, this countries' politicians are no longer in it for service. It is a high paying career with many perks that people in the private sector would go to jail for. Big government is nothing more that evil big business with a police escort. Don't wait until we need untouchables like elliot ness to break up the "mob". The middle class is being whittled away to a slave class and the "masters" are the big government crooks and their croonies.
maureen
12:12 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Those implementing the Smart Grid KNOW they have a privacy problem. Their internal documents reveal this fact. Read more yourself at the below link.
Privacy Concerns Challenge Smart Grid Rollout, Reuters, Jun 25, 2010:
"We, Siemens, have the technology to record it (energy consumption) every minute, second, microsecond, more or less live," said Martin Pollock of Siemens Energy, an arm of the German engineering giant, which provides metering services.
"From that we can infer how many people are in the house, what they do, whether they're upstairs, downstairs, do you have a dog, when do you habitually get up, when did you get up this morning, when do you have a shower: masses of private data."
http://www.stopocsmartmeters.com/smart-meter-dangers/privacy-invasion/
Bob H
12:46 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
When your source is stopsmartmeters.com --- why should anyone listen? Your sources are almost are crazy as you.
Sandy Glass
2:54 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Bob H: that was a direct quote from Siemens, who makes the meters. Again, calling fellow citizens crazy doesn't help your view point much...again, BORING!
maureen
3:07 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Bob H and Bufford are SHILLS. They only provide ridicule for disinformation purposes.
Buford Pusser
3:58 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Wow those smart meters must get off the outside wall and crawl into the house to be able to see how many people are home or what part of the house they are in or sleeping or awake and see what pets someone has. That is paranoia!!!
Buford Pusser
2:42 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Maureen time to put on your foil cap!!
denise kinsey
3:24 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Not to bash but I deal with and most of you all deal with people who have certain beliefs. Again we are avoiding issues like health and monitoring someone in there home (beieve it or not). I have a big problem with this.
And Buford they are alot of folks believing in we are not alone in the universe,
should they all put on there foil caps as well.
Why be so mean????
Sandy Glass
2:51 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Buford: Zzzzzzzz. Boring comment. Get yourself a way from the TV and start reading world history. Start with Winds of War by Herman Woulk then move on to the sequel War and Remembrances. If you don't read much, get the series of both. It's frightening how quickly power unchecked be unleashed. Then you can move on to Atlas Shrugged, but as Rick Santelli said, "you don't have to read it, you're living it." Better yet, lets get a book club together and explore the miracle of our founding fathers.
Buford Pusser
3:46 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Sandy do you see UFO's too?? I bet you even voted for the idiot that's in Office now!
Sandy Glass
3:50 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Buford: even more boring. You can do better than that. You must not be very intuitive if you imagine that I voted for O at anytime.
Sandy Glass
4:17 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Buford: from boring to absurd. Do you have any philosophical, rational, historical or code of values to make the statements you do?
Buford Pusser
4:29 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Which one? They are all valid points.
Gil Jones
9:38 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
This is a good community, with good comments, which is why we have an Internet 'Troll' amongst us? Internet 'trolls' are abusive, obnoxious bloggers who strikes viciously at any attempt to help via arguments and disharmony in online communities, they suffer from an inability to reason. Skip them, by-pass, don't respond. Let apathy do the work for us...Semper Fi
steve
11:54 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
I do want to thank Bob H and Buford for their ugly trolling so anyone interested can see the sad kind of ignorance and shilling going on in our country and maybe a few more people will wake up from their brainwashed trance to fight back.
D.DouglasThomas
7:48 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Reading the comments reminds me of the "Point Counter Point show." We now have our own here in Naper Town!
Sandy Glass
8:24 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
We returned home Friday to find footprints all over our driveway and front yard. I guess that the police were here also. Unfortuantely, the hot swap of our functioning meter for a non-wired fried the circuit in our furnace. We have an older home and were concerned that the swap would cause similar problems as our neighbor. We had an agreement with the city to set up an appointment for the switch. They came one day, while my husband was at work so they said they would call him to set up another appointment. They had cell and work numbers. Of course, they came Friday unannounced switched the meters and now we have no heat until Monday. Like Kim, they say one thing, then do another. Telling citizens that they'd shoot the dog if needed? See video on napervillesmartmeter awareness.org. King Krieger demands 100% compliance from the citizens on the electric monopoly, he doesn't seem to require the same standards of himself. The debacle is 1.7 million over budget. The Council just authorized another $300,000 to manually read the meters, which even aren't working yet. What was the thug like attack on our citizens now, other than personal ambition or intimidation against those who dared to speak out? Where and who was at a meeting to decide these tactics? Was the meeting announced so the public was aware or have input? Sell the electric company! Our rates are higher than other suburbs! We demand choice for electricity providers!
denise kinsey
8:38 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Sandy, I have a friend whi lives in a state that was having problems with older homes and it was causing fires and electrical issues.
They started to move the meters to garages and storage sheds and seemed to eliminate the problems.
Maybe someone can help you on or af
t city coucil. Just a suggestion.
Sandy Glass
8:43 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=o4DVdv9LDvg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Do4DVdv9LDvg
This is our City! Council help? They are doing everything they, in my opinion, can to intimidate us.
Sandy Glass
8:45 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
2 Min on how our city business is conducted.
http://youtu.be/NnDu7fIgpjA
denise kinsey
4:21 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
i've seen all these rhings
here is how I was treated when i took it to city council--like I was stupid
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Buford Pusser
8:46 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
You guess the Police were there? Is that an assumption? Our rates in Naperville are far from being higher than other communities. Sell what electric company? Hot swaps are done everyday and everywhere in all communities when meters are in need of replacement and maintenance.
NaperDad
8:56 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Well BP, considering that in the past few days, there is multiple video clips of different homes having installers come with police escorts it's a safe assumption. The day they installed our wireless version (after we were told we were confirmed being on the non-wireless list) was installed, not a single other neighbor had theirs switched. So, considering that they're making special install trips to those homes that don't simply roll over, yes, it's a very safe assumption.
Buford Pusser
9:22 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
The Police only show up if there's a problem taking place with the meter swap. When mine was changed the worker knocked on my door and I said go for it and there was no Police. I've also seen the meters changed in my neighborhood and not one Officer in site.
NaperDad
11:27 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Well Buford, did any of your neighbors request the legitimate "option" of a non transmitting version? This was an option offered by the city, does opting for it put someone in the "problem" category? If so, the only "problem" is the city not getting the 100% compliance it wants.
Sandy Glass
8:59 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
No Buford, our rates are not lower than many communities. We did the homework, and it was presented to Council. Ask McElroy, he has the study. Yes, sell the electric company and use the proceeds to pay off unfunded pensions. Get rid of this archaic law that forbids citizens purchase their power from competing providers. Other communities, which have voted to enter the free market are doing much better with their rates. As a Bolingbrook (Curran enjoys free market as he stated he is a resident) resident and friend said, Thank goodness the city offers us a choice. It's the first time my bill has been under a hundred dollars." My question is, where are the electric company's separate financials? If the pensions for the utility comes from the taxpayers, how is that handled? Does the utility pay back the city for benefits or is it an extra subsidy charged to the taxpayers not reflected in the rates?
Buford Pusser
9:25 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Do your homework again! I have friends and family in several suburbs and they wish their rates were as low as ours. Examples. Bolingbrook,Woodridge, Addison and Riverside. Shall I name more with higher rates.
Buford Pusser
5:55 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Sandy sorry to say you are still wrong. I have friends that live in Bolingbrook and family and friends that live in other suburbs and they are envious that I pay much lower rates than they do! They wish they could be like Napervilles electrical service.
Buford Pusser
9:34 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Damn it I just caught my smart meter peaking in the window to see if I was home and walking around naked!
Sandy Glass
9:48 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
BP: You are wrong about rates and you are wrong about police. You apparently are unwilling to do your homework and prefer to pontificate about nothing. The study as been presented, you can get it from McElroy or view it at the council meeting.
Buford Pusser
9:56 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Care to bet about the rates and the Police????
Buford Pusser
9:58 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Better yet do you want to see electric bills from where family and friends live! You will be surprised.
Sandy Glass
10:24 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
BP: we have the bills and the data. No, I don't bet. Talk to the residents reporting in. Go drive around looking for street cameras and road blocks to make sure you are cozy and safe. Contact us when all the DOE standards and mandates are put in place. Now, go find a place for your HAN unit so you can watch your hour to hour energy use and save a dollar a month signing up for TOU billing. Oh yeah, let the city regulate your thermostat too...voluntarily, of course, for now. Enjoy all of it, as you seem to be taken care of by the collective.
Buford Pusser
10:29 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
I have the data and bills too. As far as cameras and roadblocks so what!!!! I'm for both 100%. The smart meters can not control the thermostat in your house. More sci-fi crap!
Jim Smith
5:30 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Buford, as a VOLUNTARY OPTION, residents MAY elect at some point in the future to have the Smart Grid adjust their own thermostats.
That's not mandatory but it certainly is possible.
Buford Pusser
5:51 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Jim I know that's an option , but I wouldn't waste my time doing it.
Jim Smith
6:29 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
I was just clarifying that it's not science fiction.
If I got some discount for allowing the utility to cut back on my power consumption during periods of peak demand, I might consider going along with that.
If there is a brownout or blackout, then EVERYONE in an area goes without power, so one might as well get compensated for helping reduce the chances of that happening.
Sandy Glass
10:59 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Buford: do you have to be spoon fed everything? Voluntary Demand Side Control.
http://www.naperville.il.us/emplibrary/Smart_Grid/NSGIQuestionResponseInventory.pdf
tgace
11:35 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Yes you sign a contract with the power company giving them rights to access their equipment, but violating that is a breach of contract...not a crime. That's not something you should even have a cop showing up at your door for.
Yes they have a right of way...but denying them that right is not a penal law offense. They can cut off your power, they can jack up your rates, fine you...but you shouldn't be getting arrested. This was a civil law violation. The charge laid here (interference)is indicative that the cop couldn't find an arrestable violation of penal law. If a power company shows up and the homeowner refuses to let them on the property the charge in the end shouldn't be interference....what was the legal action the COP was performing that the homeowner interfered with? The power company had the "right of way"....not the officer. Police have the ability to arrest on a crime that happens in our presence or on probable cause. Keeping someone off your property in this situation is not a crime in the legal definition.
If there was a public emergency necessitating immediate access to utility lines/connection they could charge "criminal nuisance" or perhaps reckless endangerment if the property owner interfered. What was the immediate emergency necessitating an arrest in this instance?
Jim Smith
6:33 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
"Yes you sign a contract with the power company giving them rights to access their equipment, but violating that is a breach of contract...not a crime"
They have an easement (which is not a contract) which allows them access to their equipment on your property.
Suppose the utility blocked YOU from accessing your property. Would that be a "breach of contract" or a criminal offense?
soccermomof4
8:02 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Jim,
Arresting these women was the WRONG move. The city authorized police force to make sure these meters were installed and now Naperville is dealing with a public relations nightmare. This is now being covered Coast to Coast.
I can understand that this is "the city's meter"...so fine those who are denying installation. But to arrest two women? That was very heavy handed and in my opinion completely wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gerard Schilling
12:15 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Buford for a person so basically ignorant of the law, American history, Constitutional issues, Bill of Rights, technical, mechanical, electrical devices and their limitation and capabilities you embarrass yourself every time you post one of your ill-conceived and totally off the wall statements.
It is painful to continually see another human being humiliate himself to the extent that you seem to enjoy. You are a contrarian for no other purpose then to aggravate and insult people.
Why don’t you come out of the closet, act like a man, use your real name and stop playing games because you are anonymous. Reading your posts are like listening to a petulant 12 year old. Grow up and get a life.
Buford Pusser
2:21 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Gerald do you care to match wits on the law and what the Police can and can't do! I'll make you look like a fool. Also don't talk foolish about the Constitution or the bill of rights. As none were violated by anyone in Naperville. . As for the smart meters they can not adjust ones thermostat, see how many people live in the house, if one has pets , guest visting or all the sci-fi thinking here! Damn it I just caught the smart meter looking in my trash and going through my bill drawer.
Gerard Schilling
3:58 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Buford or whatever your name is, I don’t think your ego could stand it. It would be a no brainer and no contest and you might be reduced to a sniveling cry baby who locks himself in his room and pouts.
Buford Pusser
5:45 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
See as usual a weasel chickens out when challenged. Gerald are you afraid for your
family too see you embarrassed and put into place! Hee Haw!
Tom Koz
3:05 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Both were unlawful arrests. Hopefully those arrested with sue the officer(s) personally. They are not protected from civil liabilty as they were unlawful arrests.
Buford Pusser
3:28 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Wrong! The arrest were lawful.
Sandy Glass
5:57 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Listen to Daniel Hannan. You'll understand the magnificence of the free market
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-26/daniel-hannan-destroys-3-unquestionable-myths-our-crisis
soccermomof4
7:38 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Bufford Pusser
I have read your comments and all I can say is your viewpoints are quite scary. To condone these womens arrests and law enforcement escorts to install a meter speaks volumes about your character. I have spoke to my neighbors, friends and family in Naperville and there isn't one person whom agrees with how this local government has handled this situation.
The city manager and city council used bullying tactics to enforce something that some of their residents didn't want. Now residents in this state, country and worldwide are seeing firsthand the lengths at which this city will go to get "100% compliance". This has moved from a smart meter issue to a freedom issue.
Sandy Glass
8:32 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Marc: as a free person, so far, unless HAN units are required, you can choose to have a monitor, microwave, cell phones etc. Free people get to choose where to put them. You wouldn't put a microwave in your children's oven. I'm sure by now you don't put your cell phone in your infants crib. If a child is playing with an iPad, we all limit their use, and put it on "airplane" mode if they do. It's choice what equipment goes on or in our homes. The forced wireless meter is on walls of our family rooms, where our kids play or on bedroom or kitchen walls. The tropos are surrounding our schools, churches, stores and play areas. Maybe you believe the corporate/government safety studies if this new technology. Many of us, however choose to wait, limit all RF exposure and decide that we don't want our private homes used as transmitting stations. We don't want our homes monitored for real timeouts too nite energy use.
Sandy Glass
8:35 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Correction: we don't put microwaves in our children's room, and we certainly don't let them sit near running microwaves for hours at a time.
Buford Pusser
8:47 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Let's chop down all the cell phone towers in Naperville and other communities that transmit tons of RF signals. I don't see anyone protesting the cell towers?
Jim Smith
9:46 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
We need to ban McDonalds and Starbucks and the Naperville Public Library and D203 and D204 schools and any other business or organization that has WiFi! ;)
Sandy Glass
9:11 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Buford: yes, there are people concerned about the cell towers, especially the AT&T mini towers gong on the light posts...but that is another issue. These are devices that are being forced on our homes, ours on our family room wall which is the kids play area. They are not only transmitting and receiving continually, some are recieving and transmitting data from other homes in your neighborhood 24/7. By the way, Buford, they could have been hard wired in to avoid the health issues, but Curran, Krieger and your Council picked the cheap installation (which I'm sure is going to end up a financial bleed). By the way, the police did show up at houses with initial contact.
Buford Pusser
9:28 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Let's all quit our jobs then if you work in an office setting with many computers and routers and devices that transmit rf signals.
Buford Pusser
9:32 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
The Police never showed up at my house or my neighbors when the meters were installed. I guess the Police go to problematic homes when the meters are installed!
soccermomof4
10:05 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Buford
Problematic? Saying "no I don't want a smart meter on my home due to health and privacy issues" is problematic? Don't you think the police need to be on the streets dealing with the stabbings, murders, public intoxication, thefts, armed robberies, heroin problems that are occuring in Naperville? But no you have to put those moms in their place for not wanting a smart meter. **Sarcasm**
Rediculous
Buford Pusser
11:03 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
The Police are on the streets doing a great job and it's the choice and right of the Police Chief on how he assigns and implements the usage of his Police force. Do you know how many divisions and positions are in the Police Dept. and how they are used? I have lived in Naperville 27 years and yet have anything bad to say about N.P.D. Keep up the great work N.P.D. and ignore the clueless people here that have no concept on how a Police Dept. should function and what their job is all about.
Sandy Glass
10:50 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Jim Smith: you are making zero sense. Unless McDonald's wanted to build a house on my property, it doesn't matter. You are great with smoke and mirrors, though. It is our homes and we don't want that type of device on our homes. Now we are reading that the city needed to get a search warrant to be on our property if we refused. They continue to trash our civil rights. I wonder if our city attorney advised staff to do so.
Sandy Glass
10:55 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Jim Smith: in Florida we did get a check every year from our electric company. But let's do it better. Sell the utility company, let it be run by a professional board, then pay back the Unfunded pensions. The remainder is a nice check to each homeowner. Then we all get to participate in the free market and pick our own providers. By the way Orland Park rebates its citizens sales tax instead of blowing it on nonsensical schemes and double dipping pensions
Sandy Glass
10:57 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
BP: that's not what you bet on. What's "problematic" homes? People who dissent? People who speak out? Oops, according to code, King Krieger needed to obtain warrant before they trespassed on our property. Who advised them to break the law?
Sandy Glass
11:04 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Buford: Again, what does that have to do with private property rights? Our homes are our castles, and places of refuge. They are why we work, so we can go home and enjoy security, safety, peace and most of all privacy from the heavy hand of government. You just don't want to make an effort to secure your civil rights nor stay informed on the issues. You seem to want to delegate others to make your life decisions. Sheepal comes to mind
Bob H
9:41 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
If you had a credible case one of the many courts you petitioned would have listed. It's not a conspiracy, you folks are just so crazy you don't believe in reality anymore.
Buford Pusser
11:13 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
No search warrant is needed!!!! Read #26 again and educate yourself. A warrant is only needed for the inside of residential and businesses to conduct inspections if the owners refuse entry. Damn learn something! Feel free to call The DuPage SAO or the Illinois Attorney Generals Office. No warrant is never needed for backyards concerning easement rights!!!
Sandy Glass
11:16 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Buford: we all respect the Naperville Police, even, as the city argued for our double dipping of pension "non police" police Chief...or is it Police Manager???? Anywho, it's the actions of the city who decided to use the police for their ambitions.
maureen
11:46 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
If you haven't noticed....there are a few utility shills on this article. The best way to counteract their nonsense postings is to not address their nonsense but rather to POST FACTS ABOUT THE SMART GRID FORCED INSTALLATIONS.
Bob H
9:38 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Facts start with reliable sources. That is where you all have gone wrong for over a year and why you lost this fight. You can't win an argument when you just make stuff up Maureen.
How about a board certified panel of Naperville doctors agreeing that their are adverse effects. Not one, not two, but a 10-15 that will put ink to paper staking their reputations on it.
How about a reputable consulting firm confirming security threats? Your group should pay for it, because the city has paid enough for consultants.
And how about a group of Naperville based constitutional attorneys that agree withou all your violations of rights BS. Again, you pay,
I am sick of hearing from your BS sources.
MrWideMouth
12:39 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Smart Meters - something to be afraid of? http://www.squidoo.com/beware-of-smart-meters
Buford Pusser
1:16 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
I just caught the smart meter looking in wife's underwear drawer. It's interested in how many laced panties she owns.
maureen
3:47 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
The government must follow procedures when performing electronic surveillance.
I do not consent.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/7mcrm.htm
maureen
3:53 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Read it Yourself: Pages 7 and 8 of this doc are frightening for privacy issues.
http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/R42338_20120203.pdf
maureen
3:55 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Great job, Ladies! George Noory covers Naperville Smart Meter arrests & cyberattack warning.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2013/01/24
Coast to Coast AM - Jan 24 2013 - Smart Meters & Consciousness
Bob H
9:33 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
YES! Great job ladies - this Wacko Gary Noory also covered "Northern Lights Boosted by 'Blob'" and South Texas UFO
He sounds really credible and not at all some conspiracy theory crazy nut job. Citizens take heed - those of us that were not convinced stand corrected.
maureen
3:56 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
NY Times: Smart Grid WILL BE HACKED...it's just a matter of time.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/a-hacker-says-smart-grid-can-be-penetrated/
Bob H
9:28 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Wow - someone may hack in and know how much electricity I save because of the advanced reporting the smart grid provide. I am so scared - I may just quit my job and obsess about this 24-7.
Maureen where can I sign up. It would help to start a support group because sleep I will not.
Buford Pusser
9:58 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Please someone call the meter Police someone knows my kilowatts!! I feel violated!! Not!
Buford Pusser
9:59 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Hey Bob H there's a tin foil rally planned!!
Bob H
6:07 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I think we all know that Maureen is not someone to listen to as she gets her information from conspiracy theorists like George Noory. Kim and these other folks have gone shows with crazies like Noory as well.
To be completely honest, I was initially against the project because I didn't see an ROI for the tax payers. I would have voted no for that reason alone. I could care less about privacy and data security, because technology has forced us all to take this risk (credit cards, internet surfing, even rewards programs at supermarkets have potential privacy concerns).
The reason I am so ticked off at what I think are people devoid of reality is because we ALREADY SPENT THE DAMN MONEY. Let me repeat myself, there is no refund coming. The city can now use the smart grid to adjust purchasing and pricing and to get back out investment. The anti smart grid people are costing out city thousands of dollars to defend a project that is 99% complete.
So if your biggest concern the the financial state of the city, you should be pro smart grid. If not, there are a handful of crazies you should get in touch with.
Buford Pusser
8:19 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Wow this is weird! I went outside today and stood next to the smart meter to see what effects it has. I tried repeating my home phone number and it kept coming out as if I was saying Obamas phone number! Fe fi fo-fe fi fo fo
I went back into the house and everthing was normal again. Amazing.
Albert Gazalooch
8:35 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
I hung 5 strips of bacon on my Smart Meter and 10 minutes later, I had crisp bacon for breakfast! Uses less power than my microwave! Also, comes in handy for thawing frozen vegetables.
Sandy Glass
9:15 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Wow, Albert! What mental process convinced you to fry bacon on your smart meter? It seems like your critical thinking skills are a bit foggy. I hope that you're not sleeping with your cell phone under your pillow, nor using your microwave to dry your hair.
Joe Naper
9:36 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Glad to see Sandy is at it again. I went to school with her son. You know, the one running for council on the "I hate all things government" platform. They are both a bit on the "out there" side. Mrs. Glass, still belive that contrails are a government conspiracy of chemical spraying or that the government gave Magic Johnson the cure for AIDS and no one else? Let's talk about your critical thinking skills...
Buford Pusser
9:51 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
I went outside and asked the smart meter questions about Obamacare , HHS mandate, and the Country's financial tailspin and the meter gave smarter answers than Obama does!
H.I. McDunnough
12:46 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
You should ask the meter how to solve your mental problems. Report back with results, thanks!
Buford Pusser
10:04 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Tommy O you can't handle the truth or are you one of the whiners that complains about everything Naperville does!
Sandy Glass
11:20 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Joe Naper: The city must have called out the junk yard dogs. Making up more nutty things that no one ever said, to smoke up the issues and deflect the conversation. What can you expect from an anonymous character hit man? Go outside with Pussar and pontificate while cooking lunch on your smart meter.
Buford Pusser
12:09 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Sandy what's made up and deflected from this story line? Are the smart meter signals messing up your brains electrical neurons? :-)
Buford Pusser
12:26 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Joe Naper please tell me more about Sandy's son that's running for City Council and his platform so I my not vote for him if I don't like his agendas!
Buford Pusser
12:03 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
Interesting! Downers Grove went to the smart meters almost two years ago and you didn't hear squat or the residents complain about it.
D.DouglasThomas
8:20 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Ok folks...it's now a new month Feb....time to turn off the Smart Meter comments and move on......
NaperDad
10:17 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Really, so just because you turn a page on the calendar all the concerns with the smart meters just magically go away? Did the fact that our city performs unconstitutional arrests just magically disappear too?
Buford Pusser
4:47 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Naperdad. Unconstitutional arrest?
NaperDad
5:12 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Come on Walking Small, even you are aware of the fact that the SCOTUS ruled IL eavesdropping laws unconstitutional.
Buford Pusser
12:25 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
The case will still be challanged by the Illinois Attorney General! So if the Police can be recorded, I'm entitled to hide a camera wherever I wish as its my right to record anything I want without anyone's permission. Cameras in a bedroom and shower? Is there a differnce then?
NaperDad
7:31 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
Well Walking Small, now we're making breakthroughs into your psyche and and exposing what kind of man you really are. Are you hoping that IL loses and the case expands the purview to include perverted desires?
But for those watching laughing at your red herring arguments, they know the case pertains to on duty police acting in public places.
Buford Pusser
9:09 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
I hope Illinois does win the appeal/argument before SCOTUS! My point is if the Police can be recorded in public, I should be able to record inside my house which is private property!
NaperDad
12:25 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013
You can record in your private home, that's not what's at issue.
So why do you want IL to win? What do the police in public have to hide?
Buford Pusser
2:34 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013
Let's turn the tables naperdad! How about the Police or I follow you or your family around in public and walk near you and record your conversations on video? I want Illinois to win. I have no problem with video only in public as there is no expectation of privacy , but not audio. Here's an example! Officers are at a crime scene and they are discussing confidential information to the case and a homie captures the conversation such as a victim or witness that may implacate his homie. The conversation could be detrimental to the case , victim or witness ! Do you need to know why? Or how about if the Officers are at a scene and need to trade their personal information such as address or phone number or departmental sensitive information. Should scam bags or idiots be able ti record it and use it to their benefit! No! Let the video stay, but no audio.
Buford Pusser
2:36 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013
And no you can't just record in your home without ones permission. Case in point , a guy recorded his sexual trist with a women without her knowing and the guy got arrest! Why?
Buck Naper
3:32 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054177/Big-Brother-watching-New-street-lights-Homeland-Security-applications-including-speakers-video-surveillance-emergency-alerts.html#axzz2JsEL8LRf
Buford Pusser
4:01 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013
Buck watch the ACLU and Civil rights groups intervene and the microphones will be stopped, thus so will eaves dropping on Police conversations.
NaperDad
7:13 am on Monday, February 4, 2013
C'mon Walking Small, keep up. The ACLU and Civil rights groups are fighting for the right to video/audio record police.
Buford Pusser
10:14 am on Monday, February 4, 2013
You still didn't answer this Naperdad!
Let's turn the tables naperdad! How about the Police or I follow you or your family around in public and walk near you and record your conversations on video?
NaperDad
11:41 am on Monday, February 4, 2013
Well tell you what Walking Small, as soon as you respond to the straight forward questions asked of you in a prompt, respectful, truthful, and thoughtful manner, maybe your questions will be answered in the same way. But while you're not answering questions directly, and making comments about having conversations with your smart meter, the rest of us don't know which of your comments/questions are sincere and you actually want answered.
But with that being said, since you seem to actually wan this answered, I will do so with the respect that you don't afford others....
I have no problem with the police or you following me around for that matter as long as what you do is within legal bounds. If you as a taxpayer feel it's worthwhile to dedicate an officer or 3 to me then rock on. If you or someone stalks my family in an unlawful way or cross inappropriate boundaries, well then you're taking your chances. But, if you feel that my life and what I do in public is so intriguing, have at it, spring for the documentary crew and we'll start a reality show.
Buford Pusser
3:59 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
Naperdad I'm going the City Council meeting tomorrow night to see all the whack job smart meter protesters act in their silly ways. I'll bring my smart meter with to say hello!
NaperDad
4:03 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
.....aaannnnd you're telling me specifically ... why?
NaperDad
3:47 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Walking Small, I was at the meeting to observe but I didn't see you. Did your smart meter catch a virus and have to stay home?
Buford Pusser
5:12 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
I figured you would be one of the nuisances there!
Tom Koz
5:24 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
I think Buford has a man crush on Naperdad !!
NaperDad
5:35 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
LOL... dang, and here I thought the "following me around" question was a hypothetical one, not a request.
Buford Pusser
5:45 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
This video is so true and freakin funny. Watch this anti smart meter disciples!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW6aAPKEoIE&sns=em
Buford Pusser
5:46 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
Naperdad I have my smart meter out on an assignment following you around!
steve
8:18 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Councilmen Buford and BobH, we Napervillians do not appreciate your spending naperville's dime on this comment page. You should be doing your job of actual government work, like looking up the law and realizing that the arrested were not for blocking installation, but for "eavesdropping" which in the court of law will end up costing Naperville big bucks for being not a legal arrest. However, I do thank you for the long list of comments that show your lack of character that can be traced back to your computer and hopefully used by your opponents in the next election :)
Buck Naper
9:12 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Per tonight's Agenda. Section 14: Customer Equipment
Who does the Section 14.2 apply to? Does the DPUE have the right to gain access to our homes or business to inspect or test any homeowner equipment, including refrigerators, lighting, tools, medical equipment? Does that include warrentless police force and arrest?
Section 14 page 28 or Agenda page 525:
14.2. "DPUE hereby reserves the right and authority to gain access to inspect or gain access to inspect and test any customer owned equipment which is connected to DPUE system.
14.3 DPUE shall be the sole authority to determine whether any customer owned equipment connected to the DPUE system cause or "may" have a deleterious effect on the quality of service provided by DPUE to its customers.
14.4DPUE hereby reserves the right AND AUTHORITY to require the Customer to install, at the customers sole expense, any such wiring and equipment which the DPUE determined is required to prevent any deleterious effects on the quality of service provided by DPUE to its customers.
http://www.naperville.il.us/emplibrary/Boards_and_Commissions/cc20130205p.pdf
Gerard Schilling
11:51 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Give them an inch and they will continue to take more and more until you have no property, privacy, freedom or liberty left. It’s time to weed out and get rid of these sociopaths while we still can. Freedom is lost one step at a time and we are well beyond the half-way point.
Buck Naper
12:18 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Naperville must be ground zero for the "Green Agenda.". In exchange for electricity, by ordinance, the property owner must give away unfettered access to their home and property to the Department of Public Utilities. The home or business owner must relinquish all property rights, constitutional rights and civil rights just to have electricity. Absolutely no limitations regarding procedure, notification, use of force.
14.2 the DPUE reserves the RIGHT and AUTHORITY to gain access to, inspect and test ANY Customer-owned equipment which is connected to the DPU-E
Buford Pusser
2:59 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Waaaa Waaaa! Mommy I don't like the smart meters! Waaa!
Buford Pusser
3:25 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
@Gerald the start will be to get rid of dumb ( ! ) Obama
Baden Powell
11:07 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Smart meters are the devil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONO93Yi5o34
Even Hitler knew that smart meters were evil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ru40010UQP0&feature=endscreen
Buford Pusser
10:56 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Baden that video seems like all the whack jobs that are anti smart meter!
Buck Naper
4:22 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fFyHTU8tg_0
Who does this look like?
Buford Pusser
5:09 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Looks and sounds like Gerald Schilling!